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4MKfam
03-16-2007, 09:02 AM
:dance
I finally figured out through a comment by dh last night why I haven't ever really felt spanking was Biblically mandated, even when I've practiced it myself. Proverbs aren't commandments. They're wise advice and reflections given by a wise man in certain situations. That's all. Not a parenting manual, not a "do this no matter what" manual... Just good advice. Read like that, it seems ludicrous to me to assume that you can get a mandate to spank your child into righteousness from Proverbs. It just isn't there. :grin
The other thing I suddenly realized was --was "spanking" done in the times of Proverbs? I mean paddle-or-hand-on-the-butt-or-legs spanking? Most likely not. The word given in one section is actually translated "beat" in the NKJV. :scratch I'm still trying to figure that one out. The verse I'm referring to in NKJV is Prov. 23:14 --"You shall beat him with a rod, and deliver his soul from hell." How on earth would that translate to spanking as we know it today? ...Or maybe I should say --that's not the way I experienced spanking as a child. I wouldn't call it even "beating." Maybe "hitting" would be a better term, but now we're getting into semantics... The other obvious problem as it fits in to the way I understand theology --God does the saving from hell, not anything I do to or for my child. GOD does that. Anyway, I'm starting to see that while I've used spanking in my "parenting toolbox" before, I no longer see it as a Biblically mandated thing to spank in order to raise kids according to God's instructions. What a relief! :phew
Now I think I need to get Crystal's book to complete the thought... I'd really like to read a well-done exegesis of the "rod verses."
I'm getting it, finally, people!!!!! :grin

deena
03-16-2007, 09:24 AM
:rockon

ArmsOfLove
03-16-2007, 09:28 AM
:hug :tu

ReedleBeetle
03-16-2007, 10:31 AM
I know what you mean about wanting to read about the rod verses. I do too, but haven't purchased Crystals' book yet, because DH will be VERY skeptical if he realizes it was written by an online friend and will say that I am just being a fad-crazed follower :rolleyes I know if I wait a little longer until he is even more convinced, then it will be less of an issue.....so I am waiting.....as hard as that is :pacing Instead I am reading everthing else I can gt my hands on for now :)

Rbonmom
03-17-2007, 11:01 PM
I know what you mean about wanting to read about the rod verses. I do too, but haven't purchased Crystals' book yet, because DH will be VERY skeptical if he realizes it was written by an online friend and will say that I am just being a fad-crazed follower :rolleyes I know if I wait a little longer until he is even more convinced, then it will be less of an issue.....so I am waiting.....as hard as that is :pacing Instead I am reading everthing else I can gt my hands on for now :)

It's actually written by a masters-level graduate from a widely respected seminary and mother of 5 children :rockon To me those are far better credentials than any other parenting "expert" I've come across. She knows her stuff on a theological and practical level :yes

4MKFam, I'm glad that you're starting to understand the paradigm shift at a deeper level :rockon

Thia
03-18-2007, 05:04 AM
:popcorn

Wonder Woman
03-18-2007, 05:26 AM
:woohoo :rockon Doesn't that paradigm shift feel wonderful?!

nurse_reedle...it's more like Rbonmom said - with the added bonus that you've had the chance to 'meet' the author online :hug

ReedleBeetle
03-18-2007, 06:40 AM
:giggle *I* understand that, but I know how DH works. I will get to it eventually.....I promise!!

ArmsOfLove
03-18-2007, 10:43 AM
it's really okay RiAnnon :hug I love ya :heart

canadiyank
03-20-2007, 12:26 PM
:woohoo