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mom2_AthruZ
06-06-2005, 11:02 AM
I have not seen a full episode of the Super Nanny so I can't give an opinion about it. I thought I would ask here. We attended a church yesterday that had a notice about a get together for moms. It is a chance for moms to come together and view a few episodes of the show in order to get help with tough discipline problems. I am not quoting from the flyer as I can't find it! :doh But it was similar words to those.
I have a feeling that this show leans more toward the punitive side than GBD. Am I right? Is she the one that has the naughty square or something like that? :shrug I watched something one time where they put their son to sleep in his crib, sat in the room but didn't look at him. Is that her? My first reaction when I saw the flyer was Oh NO! :rolleyes Then I took a step back since I hadn't even seen an entire episode or even sure it was the Super Nanny.
Hoping some one here has some insight. I am not planning on attending, just curious about the approach of the show and why a church group would meet to watch it for parenting tips.
TIA :-)
Joanne
06-06-2005, 12:02 PM
I get the Nanny shows all confused. What bothers me about your post is that there are excellent *Christian* parenting programs available that are authentic and helpful. Why use a heavily edited entertainment show? :shrug
MarynMunchkins
06-06-2005, 12:10 PM
Yeah, the fact that a church is looking at using a television program to discipline rather than the Bible and Christian books is disturbing. :td
Oliveshoots
06-06-2005, 12:11 PM
SuperNanny is on ABC. It is a bit newer than Nanny 911. Jo Frost is the nanny on there. She has written a book that supposedly solves every family's problems and gives CONTROL back to the parents :rolleyes. SOME of her ideas are OKAY...but in general, using those episodes to get ideas and as a teaching tool? May I just subtly say :sick2 :td :banghead oh, and :spit
I would consider her punitive, just because she likes to label children as "naughty" for every little thing, be it age appropriate or not. I can't STAND that word.
I've watched almost all the episodes, and I'm trying to think of things that a group of women could actually learn from her. The only thing I can come up with is that she helps families see where their chaos and lack of family time really cause issues in the behavior of their children. She is pretty good at helping them see how to schedule more time in with their kids, but she never suggests that mom or dad stay at home to bond with their kids. She discourages spanking, but encourages punishments and rewards.
If my church were doing something like that, I would attend, armed with my Bible, "Biblical Parenting", and a few other books or articles from GCM ready to point out how her tactics are so NOT Christ-like.
That show is for entertainment purposes only....I wonder if maybe they are hoping it will be kind of like the "Andy Griffith" Bible Study series?
I would be very watchful and very discerning about that.
I would even go so far as to speak to a pastor or minister who is over that aspect of the church. It just seems like a bad idea to me. It would be like thinking you can watch Extreme Makeover (Home) and then go out and build a mansion from scratch.
TulipMama
06-06-2005, 12:53 PM
Why use a heavily edited entertainment show?
I can *imagine* this may be used as a discussion starter, taking something that is popular in the entertainment culture, and using it as a springboard for discussion about discipline problems, good solutions, poor solutions, applying the Bible and living out the Fruit of the Spirit. Led by a coupld of godly older women, this could be a really good technique for a Christian mom's support group.
That's creating the best case scenario for what you've described of this program. I really find it sad, though, if they are going to use a tv show as an authority on parenting.
ArmsOfLove
06-06-2005, 01:17 PM
at least she's against spanking :shrug
mom2_AthruZ
06-06-2005, 01:35 PM
Thanks all for the replies. I found the flyer. It is a one night get together at a church members' home. So it isn't at the church but obviously it was approved for the flyers to be out. We just started going back to this church so I don't feel it is my place to say anything. I just wish I could find a church where the leadership has an understanding and acceptance of GBD. :sad2
snlmama
06-06-2005, 05:12 PM
Yeah, the fact that a church is looking at using a television program to discipline rather than the Bible and Christian books is disturbing. :td
What she said. Although I'd rather someone follow her advice than Ezzo or Pearl. :shrug Just can't see how it'd be very productive.
chelsea
06-07-2005, 09:18 AM
I just wish I could find a church where the leadership has an understanding and acceptance of GBD.
*SIGH* I know what you mean! :neutral
kateb
06-13-2005, 08:29 AM
I'm coming a little late to this thread, sorry.
My DH is not really a GBD type of father, he's happy to watch and see how DS is doing, but in his heart of hearts I don't think he feels (yet) that there's anything wrong with spanking occasionally (if DS runs out into street etc :rolleyes). Anyway I'm babbling on, just wanted to give you some perspective.
DH has been a Christian for nearly 20 years (I'm quite a new Christian) and has in that time seen plenty of children brought up in various Christian families. One particular set of parents that he has a huge amount of respect for decided from a very young age that the biggest crime in family life was going to lying, whether to siblings, parents, elders or God. He said they taught in their family that you had to be honest at all times, that if you did wrong and confessed it would be better than lying to try to cover it up. My DH finds the way Supernanny always insists on an apology very worrying, especially for a Christian family, as it teaches the child to "say what the parent wants to hear to get off the hook" and ultimately (if the child does not want to apologise) teaches the child that it's OK lie. Crystal makes the same point in her book and suggests it's better to ask the child IF they would like to make an apology.
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